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mad4pets · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 29 Location: qld

i see have been looking at many picture of the aussie bulldogs and noticed that there seems to be a predominance of red and white. what other colours are avaliable and do they come in a black and white, grey or blue colouring.
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Jax · Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 678 Location: VIC

Below are the variation of colours as per the UABA breed standard.

Variation of Colours : shades of brindles , reds & fawns , pied colouring being one colour more dominate than another with patches on body .
Cinnamon red or cinnamon red brindle (rare) . Black or tri coloured are not recognized by the UABA .White with black patches are acceptable (pied)

Hope this answers your question.

Cheers Tam Very Happy

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ADMIN 1 · ADMINISTRATION Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 411

As per Tammy's reply, the UABA does not recognise black or tri colour, but we are very interested in trying to create some blues.
I feel that the only way we might ever see blue Aussie bulldogs, is if it comes from the introduction of Blue English Staffies, and nothing else.
Staffordshire bullterriers have a very stable personality with humans, and when compared to American staffies, or Neapolitan Mastiffs, the English Staffy always comes up trumps in stable nature.
We are hopeful that this colour ( BLUE) will be eventually produced in the Aussie bulldogs.
I strongly believe that by always having an open breeding program with various stages of development, then the UABA should always be able to throw a life line across to a related breed to enhance or expand on already established lines.

Noel.

Beccam Aussie Bulldogs · Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 9:40 am Post subject:

Hi Joel,
You posted a very similar question in another forum, I was just wondering if there was anything specifically you wanted to know about coat colouring that we may be able to help you with?

Also Noel what stage did the Great Southern Bulldog get to?
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mad4pets · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 29 Location: qld

i was just wondering what possibliites were out there, i do like the red and white, but want something a little more unusual but defiently healthy. i also like the cinnamon. me and my partner are hopefully going to get into breeding. at this stage i'm working on my breeding plan/goals and i know i have been critised many times for focussing on colour, but i personally think colour is major factor, especially considering many people buy their dogs as pets, and most pet owners are superficial and go for colour. i am just seeing if its possible to get healthy but unusual. i have read that blue and cinnamons are both influenced by the dilution gene and therefore thought they would be a good match up if these colours were avaliable.

i have also seen a silver brindle, which took my fancy but i prefer this colour in its early stage of grey/silver before it changes to the fawny look. is it possible to get a dog of this type of grey colouring which it keeps for its life?

mad4pets · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 29 Location: qld

i asked this question on a few forums because each association is slightly different so i wasn't sure if the colours varied between associations.

Beccam Aussie Bulldogs · Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 9:07 am Post subject:

You are right Joel there is a difference of opinion when it comes to colour. You will find that none of the foundation dogs used in the Jag or Wingara lines (these being the better original lines of Aussie Bulldogs) accept tri colour in their standard. Black is only accepted in the Staffordshire Bull Terrier which is a small part of the Aussie Bulldog foundation.

As for colour playing a role in breeding dogs it varies with breeders. There used to be a post by Noel that mentioned the main focus of breeders, the order or priority placed on each point changed with every breeder and in some cases every mating. But all qualities are and should be considered when pairing Aussie Bulldogs.
Type
Health
Temperament
Percentage
Colour

Selective breeding will always maximise the chance of producing a desirable trait.
For instance the more the cinnamon gene dogs are bred, the more consistent they are at producing the cinnamon colour nose. Selectively breeding cinnamon gene dogs will eventually produce entire litters of cinnamon colour.
I am not an expert on genetics and I don't know much about the blue gene other than what you know that it is a dilution of black. There was an English Staffordshire breeder here in Victoria that was doing Bulldog/Blue Staffy crosses. I think the litter produced 2 blue females and 1 blue male out of 8 pups.
In regards to dogs that are black pied, Gustybell Aussie Bulldogs own a very dark brindle pied girl Hargo Bella, which looked black when she was a pup. And the ABS have a couple of black pied dogs and a tri colour dog.
When it comes to silver brindle the only dog I can think of off the top of my head is Macobri Shrek owned by Sudar who has a very light fawn and light brindle striping.
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ADMIN 1 · ADMINISTRATION Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 411

I have only just noticed this topic, as it was rolling back before our internet was hooked up at our new house.
Just wondering whether mad4pets, is Joel and Kim, as I see you have referred to both Cameron.
Only the ABS recognise tri colour because it comes from the Hammersley line. It also turned up in one of cauchi lines.
Blacks are also recognised in Pitbulls and I would say AMstaffs, seeing they are from the same origins a few decades ago.
Tri colours are also in English bullterriers, being a solid black dog with tan points and a white chest, making the 3 colors.

Cameron, the Great southern bulldogs are very slowy simmering away. No big hurry, as they are not really a kids dog, and the idea is out there now for individuals to give it a go.

I have stacks of recipes to try out, but I don't think I will live long enough to do them all, because it takes about 20 years to get each one in the bag.

I have even thought about putting a BBD over a Harlequin or blue Great dane female. This has already been done before, in a roundabout sort of way, and the pups looked like big American bulldogs, or very similar to the Doggo Argentino. They are far too tall, and it takes more than 3 generations to get anything that remotely looks like a bulldog, and that might only be one or 2 in the litter. There was even a straight cross ST Bernard/BBD, and the woman was hocking them off as giant Aussie bulldogs.They looked like small st bernards.
Moral to that story is don't use hound dogs to produce bulldogs, ( different family tree altogether ).
Blue , and blue and white pied english staffies would go well to produce some active little blue bulldogs.
Not going to worry about it all at the moment.

See what happens in the future.

Noel.

mad4pets · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 29 Location: qld

yes mad4pets is kim and joel from qld. thanks for the info noel.
kim

J.A.G · Joined: 05 Dec 2007 Posts: 142 Location: Mighty BUXTON

Can you remind me what Aussie you have, and where abouts in QLD are you.
Thanks